Comments on: A Video Response To The Recent Debate! http://vickybeeching.com/blog/a-video-response-to-the-recent-debate/ Thu, 17 May 2012 06:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Steve http://vickybeeching.com/blog/a-video-response-to-the-recent-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-3332 Steve Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:02:52 +0000 http://vickybeeching.com/blog/?p=735#comment-3332 Thanks for the video response, Vicky. I think it is a good idea to get people to say what they think about theological issues and get them to think things through. Theology is important. There are seven Ecumenical Church Councils that met to discuss theological matters and define orthodox Christian doctrine. If theology is not important, then those bishops never would have bothered to meet. They would have just let people believe whatever they want and teach it in church. Various heresies were condemned by these councils. The Arian heresy, the Nestorian heresy, the heretical doctrines of Origen, the Monophysite heresy, and the iconoclast heresy are just a few to mention. All of these heresies were condemned by at least one of these seven councils. I think that it is a good idea to start and the beginning of the Church and see just what all happened. How was the Church initially organized? Was the Church Sola Scriptura or did tradition also play a part in the affirmation of orthodox Christian doctrine? What were the officers in the Church? How were doctrinal disputes settled? Look at what was initially taught. St. Vincent of Lerins gave a threefold test for determining truth: antiquity, universality, and consent. What has been always taught everywhere the apostles founded a church and by everyone who is a respected teacher of the Church (or at least, most of the respected teachers of the Church) is the correct teaching. The respected teachers of the Church are the Church Fathers. The "Once Saved, Always Saved" doctrine clearly fails this threefold test. So, of course, it is clearly false. Try this threefold test with other doctrines like the doctrine of baptismal regeneration and the doctrine of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. These doctrines clearly pass the test.<br><br>Steve Thanks for the video response, Vicky. I think it is a good idea to get people to say what they think about theological issues and get them to think things through. Theology is important. There are seven Ecumenical Church Councils that met to discuss theological matters and define orthodox Christian doctrine. If theology is not important, then those bishops never would have bothered to meet. They would have just let people believe whatever they want and teach it in church. Various heresies were condemned by these councils. The Arian heresy, the Nestorian heresy, the heretical doctrines of Origen, the Monophysite heresy, and the iconoclast heresy are just a few to mention. All of these heresies were condemned by at least one of these seven councils. I think that it is a good idea to start and the beginning of the Church and see just what all happened. How was the Church initially organized? Was the Church Sola Scriptura or did tradition also play a part in the affirmation of orthodox Christian doctrine? What were the officers in the Church? How were doctrinal disputes settled? Look at what was initially taught. St. Vincent of Lerins gave a threefold test for determining truth: antiquity, universality, and consent. What has been always taught everywhere the apostles founded a church and by everyone who is a respected teacher of the Church (or at least, most of the respected teachers of the Church) is the correct teaching. The respected teachers of the Church are the Church Fathers. The “Once Saved, Always Saved” doctrine clearly fails this threefold test. So, of course, it is clearly false. Try this threefold test with other doctrines like the doctrine of baptismal regeneration and the doctrine of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. These doctrines clearly pass the test.

Steve

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