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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, Todd Bentley has this amazing teaching on his podcast called &#039;the seven signs of the kingdom&#039;. He talks about what is the kingdom and how to recognise the kingdom of God. 

Check it out &lt;a href=&quot;http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=212986432&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;!

ps. Yes, I know todd has some personal problems right now, but the teaching is very very good. I hope you&#039;ll be blessed by listening to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Todd Bentley has this amazing teaching on his podcast called &#8216;the seven signs of the kingdom&#8217;. He talks about what is the kingdom and how to recognise the kingdom of God. </p>
<p>Check it out <a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=212986432" rel="nofollow">here</a>!</p>
<p>ps. Yes, I know todd has some personal problems right now, but the teaching is very very good. I hope you&#8217;ll be blessed by listening to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Oshea Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oshea Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much in part has the rest of God&#039;s Kingdom come, or to what degree are the effects of God saving us are we to expect to receive on earth? 

Consider this thought:

    This is important know!  People will think God has failed them when they were promised this &quot;victorious kingdom life&quot; heralded to them and then they do not get it.  In the pursuit to be relevant many teachers in the church have done the reverse and made themselves extremely irrelevant.  If a teacher&#039;s goal was to help people live a better life by being more connected to the true source of life, Jesus Christ, then they have self-defeated themselves from the start.  It is self-defeating to preach ignorantly or wrongly saying parts of God&#039;s kingdom have come in full when they have not.  At this point a person will think a particular part of God&#039;s kingdom has come in full (physical healing, full family reconciling etc...) and pray believing God will help them.  When God does not answer their prayer, then they will believe God failed them.  This can cause great harm to a person&#039;s faith. 

To see More: http://www.osheadavis.com/content/view/120/1/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much in part has the rest of God&#8217;s Kingdom come, or to what degree are the effects of God saving us are we to expect to receive on earth? </p>
<p>Consider this thought:</p>
<p>    This is important know!  People will think God has failed them when they were promised this &#8220;victorious kingdom life&#8221; heralded to them and then they do not get it.  In the pursuit to be relevant many teachers in the church have done the reverse and made themselves extremely irrelevant.  If a teacher&#8217;s goal was to help people live a better life by being more connected to the true source of life, Jesus Christ, then they have self-defeated themselves from the start.  It is self-defeating to preach ignorantly or wrongly saying parts of God&#8217;s kingdom have come in full when they have not.  At this point a person will think a particular part of God&#8217;s kingdom has come in full (physical healing, full family reconciling etc&#8230;) and pray believing God will help them.  When God does not answer their prayer, then they will believe God failed them.  This can cause great harm to a person&#8217;s faith. </p>
<p>To see More: <a href="http://www.osheadavis.com/content/view/120/1/" rel="nofollow">http://www.osheadavis.com/content/view/120/1/</a></p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mmmm.... pie and chips.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmmm&#8230;. pie and chips&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jumping jack kangaroo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jumping jack kangaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awsome. Looks like you had a lovely time x</description>
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		<title>By: oshea davis</title>
		<link>http://vickybeeching.com/blog/an-amazing-time-at-british-new-wine-conference-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1369</link>
		<dc:creator>oshea davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.     &quot;What part of the Kingdom of God has come in full? There is much rampant confusion throughout the church concerning what it means that God’s Kingdom has come. Particularly the confusion lies in how much and in what ways has God’s Kingdom come. Many untaught or false teachers use the phrase kingdom of God to force in all kinds of ideas, particularly their selfless ideas because their belly is their god. Therefore, to usher in clarity on this topic let me say, up front, that the one part of God’s kingdom that has come in full is: the gospel. The rest of God’s kingdom has only come in part or not at all.&quot; 

I have posted this full article at my site:
 http://www.osheadavis.com/content/view/120/1/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.     &#8220;What part of the Kingdom of God has come in full? There is much rampant confusion throughout the church concerning what it means that God’s Kingdom has come. Particularly the confusion lies in how much and in what ways has God’s Kingdom come. Many untaught or false teachers use the phrase kingdom of God to force in all kinds of ideas, particularly their selfless ideas because their belly is their god. Therefore, to usher in clarity on this topic let me say, up front, that the one part of God’s kingdom that has come in full is: the gospel. The rest of God’s kingdom has only come in part or not at all.&#8221; </p>
<p>I have posted this full article at my site:<br />
 <a href="http://www.osheadavis.com/content/view/120/1/" rel="nofollow">http://www.osheadavis.com/content/view/120/1/</a></p>
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		<title>By: oshea davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>oshea davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only part of the Kingdom of God that has come in full now is: &quot;the gospel of Jesus Christ.&quot;

Othter parts have come in part such as healing and yet other parts have come in at all such as the new creation of everything.

I will post a more detail expliantion of this on might sight today, Lord willing.  

Sincerely Yours: Oshea Davis (www.osheadavis.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only part of the Kingdom of God that has come in full now is: &#8220;the gospel of Jesus Christ.&#8221;</p>
<p>Othter parts have come in part such as healing and yet other parts have come in at all such as the new creation of everything.</p>
<p>I will post a more detail expliantion of this on might sight today, Lord willing.  </p>
<p>Sincerely Yours: Oshea Davis (www.osheadavis.com)</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an amazing story in Luke 18. It talks about contending until you get what you need. We are in a microwave culture &quot;I want it here, and I want it now&quot;. I tend to give up pretty fast. We need to learn to keep pressing in for what we need.

One of the other reasons is because a lot of &#039;ordinary&#039; christians in church have got the 1cor12 gift of healing, but never use it/ train it/develope it.

The verse from luke:(http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?Bible=Bible&amp;m=luke+18%3A1-8&amp;id32=1&amp;pos=0&amp;set=3&amp;l=en)

By the way, many dutchies here! You know, you ain&#039;t much if you ain&#039;t ...

Blessings from Holland!

Leon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an amazing story in Luke 18. It talks about contending until you get what you need. We are in a microwave culture &#8220;I want it here, and I want it now&#8221;. I tend to give up pretty fast. We need to learn to keep pressing in for what we need.</p>
<p>One of the other reasons is because a lot of &#8216;ordinary&#8217; christians in church have got the 1cor12 gift of healing, but never use it/ train it/develope it.</p>
<p>The verse from luke:(http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?Bible=Bible&amp;m=luke+18%3A1-8&amp;id32=1&amp;pos=0&amp;set=3&amp;l=en)</p>
<p>By the way, many dutchies here! You know, you ain&#8217;t much if you ain&#8217;t &#8230;</p>
<p>Blessings from Holland!</p>
<p>Leon</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
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		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(This started as just random questions I was gonna ask you, but it seems this kinda relates to the question at the end of your blog entry. So I&#039;m gonna tie it all in to my response.)

Vicky,

Do u watch the &#039;Harry Potter&#039; movies? Or read the books? I tried reading the books, but the pacing seems to get slower and slower. So I&#039;m just gonna follow the series with the movies.

The last one (Order of the Phoenix) was cool because it reminded me of that scripture, &quot;Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away&quot; (2 Tim. 3.5). Of course this only works if you view &#039;HP&#039; as an allegory. Plug in the elements.

I think a huge contributing factor to not seeing the in-breaking of the Kingdom is unbelief. Especially rampant in the industrialized nations. &quot;Jesus marveled at their unbelief. And could not do many miracles there.&quot;

Yet, we have to keep in mind as well His sovereign purpose to use &quot;evil&quot; for good. (Like Joseph going to the pit. Daniel in the lion&#039;s den. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego in the fire. And hello! Jesus on the cross!)

I believe that the kingdom can be realized in the community of believers to a degree much greater than we have seen previously. Talk about Paul and Silas worshiping God in prison! And I believe that we can greatly influence the world and expand the kingdom. We are commanded to do so. (The ten servants with varying talents deposited to their care.) Yet at the same time, until the Prince of Peace - Jesus Himself returns - we watch for His coming, our &quot;blessed hope.&quot;

Blessings to you, Vicky! It is exciting to see the kingdom advancing strong in Great Britain. May that fire spread throughout the world!

Praise Jesus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(This started as just random questions I was gonna ask you, but it seems this kinda relates to the question at the end of your blog entry. So I&#8217;m gonna tie it all in to my response.)</p>
<p>Vicky,</p>
<p>Do u watch the &#8216;Harry Potter&#8217; movies? Or read the books? I tried reading the books, but the pacing seems to get slower and slower. So I&#8217;m just gonna follow the series with the movies.</p>
<p>The last one (Order of the Phoenix) was cool because it reminded me of that scripture, &#8220;Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away&#8221; (2 Tim. 3.5). Of course this only works if you view &#8216;HP&#8217; as an allegory. Plug in the elements.</p>
<p>I think a huge contributing factor to not seeing the in-breaking of the Kingdom is unbelief. Especially rampant in the industrialized nations. &#8220;Jesus marveled at their unbelief. And could not do many miracles there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet, we have to keep in mind as well His sovereign purpose to use &#8220;evil&#8221; for good. (Like Joseph going to the pit. Daniel in the lion&#8217;s den. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego in the fire. And hello! Jesus on the cross!)</p>
<p>I believe that the kingdom can be realized in the community of believers to a degree much greater than we have seen previously. Talk about Paul and Silas worshiping God in prison! And I believe that we can greatly influence the world and expand the kingdom. We are commanded to do so. (The ten servants with varying talents deposited to their care.) Yet at the same time, until the Prince of Peace &#8211; Jesus Himself returns &#8211; we watch for His coming, our &#8220;blessed hope.&#8221;</p>
<p>Blessings to you, Vicky! It is exciting to see the kingdom advancing strong in Great Britain. May that fire spread throughout the world!</p>
<p>Praise Jesus!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got a few minutes to reply while I&#039;m waiting for an oil change... Lots of good thoughts here already. What a great group! 
 
I love the “action!” shot. Your dad&#039;s hat is great too! Where&#039;s yours? :o) 
 
That&#039;s so exciting that the conference went so well. I&#039;m praying that the same happens next week at one I&#039;ll be helping with in Michigan. 
 
You like to ask tough questions! This is obviously another huge can o&#039; worms, but here&#039;s a couple of my thoughts. 
 
I think it&#039;s interesting that the Bible never talks about someone who needed healing and came to Jesus and wasn&#039;t healed. This seems to be in line with thinking that it must always be God&#039;s will to heal us. However, I know of cases where the bright young kid with cancer dies... even though many people are praying for a miraculous recovery. This is hard... to go through as well as hard to understand. 
 
I know people who see miraculous healings regularly for those they pray for but who also don&#039;t always receive immediate healing for their own injuries or sickness. I think it may be going to far to say that if we don&#039;t receive healing immediately (or even at all) that there must be something we&#039;re not doing right. 
 
On the other hand, I think we can learn and grow and become more effective in almost any area of ministry, and this includes praying for healing. I know of people who see healing miracles regularly in their ministry, and they got to this point by making a serious study of the life of Jesus, and trying to understand and emulate the way He lived His life. Dr. Roger Sapp comes to mind as a really great guy who is one the the most Christ-like people I&#039;ve met, and I know he began to see significantly more healings in his ministry after spending a couple of years of intentional study of the life of Christ. 
 
As to the more general question of God&#039;s kingdom come to earth... that&#039;s another good one. I believe God gave dominion over the earth to man, and this is probably the main reason that so many things here are so messed up. There are lots of examples of where things would be better on earth if we took hold of the dominion we&#039;ve been given instead of sitting back and wondering how God could let things get to be so bad. 
 
So, since we&#039;ve been given dominion, let&#039;s go change the world that God gave us! We should be praying “Your kingdom come,” but let&#039;s *do* something about it too while we&#039;re at it! :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got a few minutes to reply while I&#8217;m waiting for an oil change&#8230; Lots of good thoughts here already. What a great group! </p>
<p>I love the “action!” shot. Your dad&#8217;s hat is great too! Where&#8217;s yours? <img src='http://vickybeeching.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> ) </p>
<p>That&#8217;s so exciting that the conference went so well. I&#8217;m praying that the same happens next week at one I&#8217;ll be helping with in Michigan. </p>
<p>You like to ask tough questions! This is obviously another huge can o&#8217; worms, but here&#8217;s a couple of my thoughts. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s interesting that the Bible never talks about someone who needed healing and came to Jesus and wasn&#8217;t healed. This seems to be in line with thinking that it must always be God&#8217;s will to heal us. However, I know of cases where the bright young kid with cancer dies&#8230; even though many people are praying for a miraculous recovery. This is hard&#8230; to go through as well as hard to understand. </p>
<p>I know people who see miraculous healings regularly for those they pray for but who also don&#8217;t always receive immediate healing for their own injuries or sickness. I think it may be going to far to say that if we don&#8217;t receive healing immediately (or even at all) that there must be something we&#8217;re not doing right. </p>
<p>On the other hand, I think we can learn and grow and become more effective in almost any area of ministry, and this includes praying for healing. I know of people who see healing miracles regularly in their ministry, and they got to this point by making a serious study of the life of Jesus, and trying to understand and emulate the way He lived His life. Dr. Roger Sapp comes to mind as a really great guy who is one the the most Christ-like people I&#8217;ve met, and I know he began to see significantly more healings in his ministry after spending a couple of years of intentional study of the life of Christ. </p>
<p>As to the more general question of God&#8217;s kingdom come to earth&#8230; that&#8217;s another good one. I believe God gave dominion over the earth to man, and this is probably the main reason that so many things here are so messed up. There are lots of examples of where things would be better on earth if we took hold of the dominion we&#8217;ve been given instead of sitting back and wondering how God could let things get to be so bad. </p>
<p>So, since we&#8217;ve been given dominion, let&#8217;s go change the world that God gave us! We should be praying “Your kingdom come,” but let&#8217;s *do* something about it too while we&#8217;re at it! <img src='http://vickybeeching.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed the worship at New Wine this year. Vicky you certainly have a wounderful gift to bring Gods people into his presence. As to why some people get healed on earth and others don&#039;t seem to, well only God knows Deut 29 29
Our commission is to bring people into the Kingdom and salvation, wholeness and rightousness in the Lord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed the worship at New Wine this year. Vicky you certainly have a wounderful gift to bring Gods people into his presence. As to why some people get healed on earth and others don&#8217;t seem to, well only God knows Deut 29 29<br />
Our commission is to bring people into the Kingdom and salvation, wholeness and rightousness in the Lord.</p>
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