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“God has given Christianity a masculine feel” says John Piper

There have been a lot of posts in the blogosphere lately about the role of women in the church. I’ve contributed to a few of these on this site and on Twitter, so feel free to read my earlier posts too if interested.

Last week John Piper held a conference called ”God, Manhood & Ministry – Building Men for the Body of Christ” in the Minneapolis Convention Center.

He taught that: “God revealed Himself in the Bible pervasively as king not queen; father not mother. The second person of the Trinity is revealed as the eternal Son not daughter; the Father and the Son create man and woman in His image and give them the name man, the name of the male.

God appoints all the priests in the Old Testament to be men; the Son of God came into the world to be a man; He chose 12 men to be His apostles; the apostles appointed that the overseers of the Church be men; and when it came to marriage they taught that the husband should be the head.

Now, from all of that I conclude that God has given Christianity a masculine feel. And being God, a God of love, He has done that for our maximum flourishing both male and female.”

So how does he think this will make women feel? Apparently he thinks it will make us flourish in a way we could not do outside of a ‘masculine Christianity’.

He says his teaching “is liable to serious misunderstanding and serious abuse since there are views of masculinity which would make such a perspective repulsive.”

He explains: “When I say masculine Christianity or masculine ministry or Christianity with a masculine feel, here’s what I mean: Theology and church and mission are marked by an overarching godly male leadership in the spirit of Christ with an ethos of tender-hearted strength, contrite courage, risk-taking decisiveness, and readiness to sacrifice for the sake of leading and protecting and providing for the community. All of which is possible only through the death and resurrection of Jesus.”

And as a clincher:

“It’s the feel of a great, majestic God who is by His redeeming work in Christ inclining men to humble Christ-exalting initiatives and inclining women to come alongside those men with joyful support, intelligent helpfulness, and fruitful partnership in the work.”

So women are called to ‘come alongside’ these godly, masculine men and offer ‘joyful support’ and ‘intelligent helpfulness‘?!

I see that as a total mis-reading of the Genesis concept of ‘helper’ (Hebrew term ‘ezer’) – and as utterly patronising. Genesis 2 speaks of God making woman as a ‘helper’ (ezer) for Adam. This Hebrew term appears about 19 times in the Old Testament and is mainly used about God himself being the helper of Israel. For example, ”O Israel, trust in the Lord, for He is your Helper and shield” (Psalm 115:9).

Using ‘ezer’, rather than portraying a woman coming under the powerful, masculine leadership of Adam, it presents her as a strong, God given person there to be relied on and leaned on as Israel leaned on God. Is God subordinate to Israel? Is he a weak lapdog? Or is he a strong and able person whom it would be utterly inappropriate to regard as ‘lesser than’? I think we know the answer.

I also see Piper’s arguments lacking in trinitarian theology; in creating us male and female in the imago dei, only when both men and women are represented equally in Christianity can the Godhead fully be reflected (Genesis 1:26 ”Let us make humanity in our image, according to our likeness”).

I believe God revealed himself through male Patriarchs and male disciples and came as a man in Jesus because the culture of that era would not have listened to a woman. A woman couldn’t have received a Jewish education and Rabbinical training. A woman’s word was not given any weight. So yes, Jesus was a man and was masculine. It’s important that he was both of those things rather than some in between, genderless non-masculine non-feminine creation. But I believe he came as a man purely because that was the culturally possible way to impact the world that he loved.

I don’t see all this as God crafting a ‘masculine religion’, rather as a sad result of the fallen world and its created hierarchy of male leadership. Of course, we are equally to blame for this gender hierarchy – both sexes are represented in Adam and Eve’s choices. And the result is a hierarchy resulting from that sinful choice. In the true understanding of the Hebrew term ‘azer’ there was no gender hierarchy before the Fall, only afterwards. And I see that as part of what is redeemed by the work of the cross, leading Paul to say in Galatians 3:28 that post-cross ” There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus”.

Some argue that Galatians 3:28 doesn’t apply to male-female roles in the created order, in ministry or marriage. This baffles me as surely the work of the cross is enough to reverse the results of the Fall and remove the barriers that sin has caused to gender equality? I believe this is exactly what Jesus has done and that the cross has changed everything – the created order made new. As my friend the Assistant Bishop of London says about that passage – how can it NOT be taken soteriologically?!

One point Piper doesn’t make is that the Holy Spirit is genderless. Or that there are numerous significant women in Scripture in the Old Testament (Deborah, Esther, Hannah, Miriam etc) and in the New Testament (Mary, Mary of Bethany, Junia etc). Or that Jesus broke all the social norms to make women feel equal (e.g. telling Mary to sit at his feet and learn in the Rabbinical style, or conversing with the woman at the well to the horror of those around him).

To say God mainly reveals himself through men and wants a masculine Christianity is to me a very sad state of affairs. And no doubt in raising my concerns I will be branded as some sort of irate feminist who is somehow ungracious and critical of people like Piper and Driscoll. If you know me at all, you’ll know I’m not harsh, or judgemental or angry. I’m a pretty quiet, gentle kind of person who just has a huge heart to see women welcomed in to the Church and treated as equals. This kind of teaching is the antithesis of that. So no, I can’t be quiet about it.

Driscoll, Piper and others are saying we are in a crisis as there are very few young men in our churches. They say their teaching is an attempt to win them back.

Yet at the same time many of my educated, gifted and thoughtful female friends are feeling less and less welcome in Church culture.

So if we aren’t careful, this ‘masculine Christianity’ teaching may well attract the young men back in, but at the expense of the women who are feeling increasingly disturbed patronised and excluded by the rise of this kind of teaching. And for the sake of them, I write this.

 

Over to you:

- What are your thoughts on this?

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A quick hello from Durham

Greetings! It’s been weeks since I last blogged – one of my biggest ‘non blogging’ periods in years. One of my last posts announced the news that I was moving to Durham to start a Phd. So that’s where I am and that’s what I’ve been so busy doing for the past month!

This blog post is just a quick hello so nothing too exciting…but I missed you all so I wanted to check in!

Durham is a truly amazing city – small, historic, quaint, soaked in history and spiritual significance. The cathedral is breath taking and is where I’ve decided to ‘go to Church’ (although I dislike that phrase as we ARE the church…but you know what I mean!).

Having watched the Harry Potter films over the past month, it’s amusing to see Durham through that lens as much of films 1 & 2 were shot here in the cathedral. Every time I walk through the cloisters I see images of Harry and his friends in my head!

My studies are off to a good start. My initial reading is in the area of (1) contemplative prayer and (2) academic studies on the use of the internet. Durham is a great place to be reading material like this as it feels like both a very monastic place with the cathedral and it’s cloisters just a stone’s throw away from where I am reading these books, and it’s a very digital place too as there is a lot of online activity at the University and a respect for it as a genuine area of academic research.

Hope you’re all doing well. Looking forward to more discussion on theological topics here soon!

This site has also had a redesign… hope you like it.

In the meantime, how can I be praying for you? Feel free to leave your prayer request as a comment below, by clicking here.

Vicky :)

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A conversation between two artificial intelligence “ChatBots”

Check out this fascinating video. Cornell University’s ‘Creative Machines Lab’ have created a ‘ChatBot’. It’s a computer program that mimics human conversation. Their aim is to create something so intelligent and convincing that a human could be in an audio conversation with it and think they were talking to a real person.

As a bit of fun they decided to wire two ChatBots together and see what kind of conversation they’d have back and forth. They exchange pleasantries, but then talk about deeper things like belief in God, having bodies and trying to resolve a disagreement. Watching two machines argue is pretty surreal!

Mashable says : “At the Loebner Prize Competition in Artificial Intelligence on October 19, the program will be paired not with itself but with humans. If it fools at least two humans into thinking that it, too, is human, the team will take home $25,000. One day a team might take home a $100,000 prize for introducing a completely convincing audiovisual imitation as well, a goal that the IEEE’s blog calls “closer than you think.

This has interesting effects on our theology of personhood/the value of the individual. If a ChatBot could replace customer service employees, what are we saying about the value of human-to-human communication? Or the value of vocation and training in fulfilling a role like providing people with answers and information?

I already struggle with the numerous automated banking/phone/bill paying services, where you get stuck in endless menus saying “speak after the beep”!

Would you like to see more services run by machines/ChatBots? Do you think they could provide a good enough level of service? Does this free people up to do other more interesting roles, or does it take away important work that people have trained to become excellent in? Will it, like the use of robots and machines in factories, leave well-trained people without jobs?

Fancy chatting to a ChatBot yourself? You can. Visit CleverBot.com, where you type in conversation and are responded back to, by CleverBot software. It shows its limitations but also its skills too!

The goal of all this seems to be, to create machines that someday will be hard to distinguish from human beings. One on hand this fascinates me (because I am a geek and I love the advancement of technology). On the other hand it is sobering, as we will have more and more ethical questions to face, as the lines between human and machine become increasingly blurry in the days to come.

It reminds me of The Matrix, when Agent Smith (the bad guy) is discovered to be a computer program rather than a human being. Perhaps we’ll have this problem in the decades ahead?!

I heard someone comment today that it’s funny how robots can be excellent at things we find hard (like complex mathematics). Yet some things we find very simple, they will really struggle with (like reading social signals, or hearing noises from far away). Much is needed to close that gap. But it’s getting ever closer.

Over to you:

  • How close do you think technology will get to replicating a human being in communication skills and thought?
  • Do you think you could be fooled by a highly programmed ChatBot at the end of a phone?
  • What spiritual questions does all of this raise about our value of people vs machines?
  • On a more fun level, if you had a robot, what task would you like it to be able to perform? Vacuuming? Making your dinner? Driving your car?

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